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Post by backwoodsman on Jul 19, 2010 2:52:48 GMT -5
If this isnt an appropriate spot please move it. We prefer to follow the air bubbles and find active rat runs. Baring finding the rat runs and just setting a 110 in them heres what we do. I use 110's and footholds set on poles thru the ice. Any light colored object should work on the conibear triggers. We started cutting some wood wedges to look like apple/potato/parsnip chunks and bending the ends of the 110 triggers up to hold them on. I think the rats are attracted to the light color/shape etc and cant smell the apple/potato/real bait? Ive tried aluminum foil on the 110 triggers before and had some success but Im not sold on them. If the rats get smart and start to avoid "fruit" etc baited sets then switching a few to aluminum foil might be an idea? Old timer I knew use to dig up stream side roots before the freeze up and use them. Of course being in my youth then and knowing everything I never asked him what they were but they reminded me of over size ginseng or parsnips roots? I use 110's cause thats what I have the most of. 120's probably would be easier to set up. One way to stabilize the 110's is wooden wedges in the spring eyes wedged between the pole and spring. Or you can wire the spring eye down tight to the pole. Always slide the ring over the pole or wire the chain ring to the pole(if its driven down tight) or some how stake it fairly solid espescialy if you have otter in your area, the 110 wont hold them most likely but they wont drag it off either. Spending an hour with a metal rod feeling for a ding under the ice aint fun. I use footholds set up like miniature beaver poles but with smaller footholds and light colored bait. You can set several footholds or coni's on each depending on water depth. Ive set 3 or 4 110's on one pole before in rat infested areas. Easier to check and remove the rats/reset too if you cover the holes with grass etc to slow/retard the refreezing. Some ponds/lakes we only take 1 or 2 rats per 30+ set's even with a healthy population. If those creek banks are pretty much straight up and down you can stick a bait in under the ice against the bank and set a foothold under it, either on the bottom or shove a board with a finishing nail(s) on it to hold it or several finger thick sticks like a shelf? Upside to the ice and lower success rates is those rat hides are at their primest and until they start fighting they should bring top dollar.
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Post by catmando1 on Jul 20, 2010 22:11:57 GMT -5
I use to think that trapping rats through the ice would be just too much work and I never would do it. Boy was I wrong! I learned that bubble trails could save alot of time, and they were never wrong! Now I don't want to trap open water as it is much more difficult dealing with waders, mud bottoms, and rat runs all murked up from me entering the water. On the ice, it all is nice and clear!
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Post by fuzz269 on Jul 20, 2010 22:31:14 GMT -5
I have never tryed for rats under ice, but I may just have to try alittle this winter
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Post by catmando1 on Jul 21, 2010 18:11:48 GMT -5
I'll lay odds your ice is gonna be thicker!!! Here, once you have opened up the set area, it's fairly easy to bust through again as the ice is thinner then. A little trick I learned to be able to see through ice where the surface has you limited, was to only chop a ax blade width through a thinner spot in the set area, just too get water on top of the ice. Once a little water is on the top you can see through like glass! If the ice is milky looking, just chop it out and let the set area re-freeze, esp if there will be no precipitation or wind that night. It will then be fairly clear so you can use the water trick. Somethimes I just take an insulated drinking jug in gallon size full of water, and just pour a little bit on the ice and it works real well too. Just takes a little bit to spread over the ice. rats are better quality when ice is on, and SOOO much easeir to find active dens and trap them, it will ruin you!
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Post by backwoodsman on Jul 21, 2010 23:47:56 GMT -5
If the runs are shallow enough its a blast trapping the ice. The hides are just about as prime as theyre gonna get too. Smaller holes covered with a chunk pf plywood or dry grass etc help alot with the rechopping. Icefishing drill is alot easier then an ax and/or ice spud, lol. Ive had my whiskers and hood froze too many times whacking around with an ax.
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Post by catmando1 on Jul 25, 2010 20:51:17 GMT -5
i get a little splash once in a while too, but not bad generally.
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Post by white316 on Jul 25, 2010 20:55:36 GMT -5
Its hard not to get a little wet [or froze ]
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Post by willow on Aug 29, 2010 15:07:13 GMT -5
Around here a conibear with a carrot or parsnip on the trigger placed about 4-6 inches under the ice, close to a rat house or pushup, will get you a rat almost every check. If you can find the runs, a colony trap will make short work, just be careful you don't over trap an area, requires a lot more chopping to get it in and out.
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Post by white316 on Aug 30, 2010 15:28:37 GMT -5
I am a big fan of colony traps in open water.
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Post by backwoodsman on Sept 1, 2010 0:17:54 GMT -5
We've used them in other areas/states but theyre illegal here.
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Post by SophiaTum on Mar 31, 2019 14:03:09 GMT -5
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